(NJ) – The problem, Jack Abramoff says, is that public officials don’t think they’re being bribed.
If a defendant, at the start of a trial, were to walk up
to a judge’s bench and drop off a pair of tickets to the judge’s favorite team,
there’d be no question — that’s a bribe, Abramoff told a crowd of more than 300
at the Morris Museum Monday afternoon.
But when lobbyists deal in favors, in tickets, in
expensive meals, in golf games and — perhaps most damningly — campaign
contributions, Washington insiders tend to think everything’s fine, Abramoff
said. They’re mostly good people who don’t see the trade as anything
inappropriate, he said.
“I’ve yet to encounter anybody outside of the beltway who
thinks this system is working,” Abramoff said. “There, they think it’s working
perfectly.”
The man who served 43 months in prison for his efforts to
buy influence and legislation told the audience plainly: Congress most
certainly remains for sale.
His presentation, sponsored by Fairleigh Dickinson
University, comes with scarcely more than two weeks until Election Day, and
packed the museum’s meeting room to capacity. Abramoff recounted his own life
story, including his early political history as a College Republican National
Committee national chairman, and his work lobbying Congress to support
President Ronald Reagan’s initiatives.
It was during that time, Abramoff said, he had his “first
brush with corruption.”
Reagan’s administration was short six votes it needed for
an MX Missile project, Abramoff said. But a Democratic congressman from Texas
called Abramoff to his office, and offered him 13 “yes” votes — for a price, he
said.
The congressman wanted money for a naval base in his
district, Abramoff said. He wanted Abramoff to get on the phone with the White
House and make it happen.
So, Abramoff said, he called his administration liaison —
then-White House Communications Director Pat Buchanan. And in a few minutes,
Buchanan arranged for the naval base, he said.
“It was like being in a bad version of a Frank Capra
movie,” he said.
But that was nothing compared to the excess in which
Abramoff was a willing participant years later, after he left a career making
movies and returned to Washington to join Preston Gates & Ellis, and then
Greenberg Traurig.
By Abramoff’s own account, he went into lobbying with
noble aims — to support clients whose interests aligned with his own
small-government, conservative, Republican ideals. He’d use connections,
influence and resources to advance those aims.
And lobbying in itself, Abramoff said, isn’t the problem.
It’s a good thing that citizens, or their representatives, can petition the
government. But when special interests use lobbyists to manipulate and shape
the process through their own massive power, things go wrong, he said.
“The problem is bi-partisan,” he said. “There is some
better and worse, some good and bad in both parties, but the problem is
bi-partisan.”
And his team of 40 or so lobbyists, under his direction,
became obsessed with victory, Abramoff said. So they’d push through legislation
through any means they could, usually targeting Congress, not the White House
(It’s easier to sneak something trough when 10,000 things are happening,” he
said.”).
Abramoff would take clients to expensive dinners at
restaurants he owned just for that purpose. He’d take them for golf — and fly
them to exclusive courses to do it. In that time, he said, he only failed in
one legislative battle.
“If you find somebody who’s never losing, something’s wrong,”
he said.
And the problem got larger and larger, he said. The very
legislators who might regulate the process hope to become lobbyists themselves,
Abramoff said, so there’s isn’t much incentive to reign lobbyist in.
And when the dominoes all started falling down — a
Washington Post article exposed many of Abramoff’s practices, Sen. John McCain
subpoenaed 850,000 e-mails, and the Department of Justice began its own
investigation — they uncovered messages and practices that were frequently on
the wrong side of the law.
Abramoff said he’d never before thought of what he did as
illegal or immoral — “Instead of six tickets to the Redskins, I have 72
tickets, so what?” he said. But in reviewing the same e-mails onto which
investigators seized, Abramoff said, he began to see a problem.
“The me I thought I was wasn’t me,” Abramoff said.
There have been reforms since Abramoff went to prison, but
they’re toothless, he told the crowd. One new rule would keep a lobbyist from
taking a legislator to lunch — unless that lunch is classified as a fundraising
event.
So the lobbyist just brings a $5,000 check, he said.
“Is that really better,” Abramoff asked?
Abramoff, whose book “Capitol Punishment: The Hard Truth
About Corruption From America’s Most Notorious Lobbyist” was published last
year, said he and others are pushing for legislation they believe would do far
more to reform the lobbying process. It would ban campaign contributions by
lobbyists, keep Capitol Hill workers from taking jobs as lobbyists for at least
a set period of time, and it would require legislators to be subject to the
same regulations that put on others.
But getting those measures passed, he said, will take a
long time, maybe several election cycles — because, he said, those inside the
system often earnestly believe there’s no problem. Connect them to lie
detectors, he said, and they’ll confidently answer that they’re not being
bribed.
And a threat to withhold financial support doesn’t mean
much when other interest groups are ready to offer it instead, he said.
“It’s going to require us beating members of Congress,” he
said.
Source: Tea Party.org from http://www.nj.com/somerset/index.ssf/2012/10/jack_abramoff_tells_nj_audienc.html
Comments:
I’ve said for a
long time that the only way to get Congress to work for us instead of them is
to get our State Legislatures to pass Campaign Finance laws that don’t allow “them”
to make any campaign contributions. All
legal campaign contributions would have to come from registered voters who
would have these candidates on their ballots. This law would also apply to
those State Legislators, so it’s no surprise we haven’t seen much action on my
proposal.
Norb Leahy,
Dunwoody GA Tea Party Leader
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