Q: How are amendments to the federal Constitution made?
A: Article V of our Constitution provides two method of
amending the Constitution:
1. Congress proposes amendments and presents them to the
States for ratification; or
2. When 2/3 of the States apply for it, Congress calls a
convention to propose amendments.
Q: Which method was used for our existing 27 amendments?
A: The first method was used for all 27 amendments including
the Bill of Rights which were introduced into Congress by James Madison.
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Q: Is there a difference between a constitutional
convention, con con, or Article V Convention?
A: These names have been used interchangeably during the
last 50 years.
Q: What is a "convention of states"?
A: That is what the people pushing for an Article V convention
now call it
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Q: Who is behind this push for an Art. V convention?
A: The push to impose a new Constitution by means of an
Article V convention (and using a "balanced budget" amendment as justification)
started in 1963 with the Ford and Rockefeller Foundations.
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Today, it is pushed by:
* Hundreds of progressive (Marxist) groups listed here
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* George Soros
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* Michael Farris Esq., of "Convention of States"
(COS), and author of the "parental rights" amendment which delegates
power over children to the federal & state governments.
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* Nick Dranias , Esq., of the Compact for America, Inc. whose "balanced budget"
amendment imposes a new national sales or VAT tax on the American People.
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* Former law
professor Rob Natelson.,
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* Nullification denier and law professor Randy Barnett, who
proposes an amendment which delegates to Congress the power to regulate "emissions"
[EPA now exercises usurped powers].
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* Nullification denier and birther denier, Mark Levin, Esq.,
whose "balanced budget" amendment legalizes Congress'
unconstitutional spending and does nothing to control the debt.
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Q: Why do they want an Article V Convention?
A: The only way to get rid of our existing Constitution and
Bill of Rights is to have an Article V convention where they can re-write our
Constitution.
Jordan Sillars, Communications Director for Michael Farris'
"Convention of States, said: "I think the majority of Americans are
too lazy to elect honest politicians. But I think some men and women could be
found who are morally and intellectually capable of re-writing the
Constitution...".
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Q: How can they impose a new constitution if ¾ of the States
don't agree to it?
A: Only amendments require ratification by ¾ of the States
(see Art. V). But a new constitution would have its own new method of
ratification - it can be whatever the drafters want. For example, the proposed
Constitution for the New states of America is ratified by a referendum called
by the President.
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Q: Can a convention be stopped from proposing a new
Constitution?
A: No. Once the delegates are duly appointed &
assembled, they are acting under the inherent authority of A People to alter or
abolish their form of government [Declaration of Independence, 2nd para]; and
have the sovereign power to do whatever they want at the convention.
Q: Is this what happened at the Federal Convention of 1787?
A: Yes. Pursuant to Article XIII of The Articles of
Confederation to call a convention to be held at Philadelphia "for the
sole and express purpose of revising the Articles of Confederation." But
the delegates ignored this limitation and wrote a new Constitution. Because of
this inherent authority of delegates, it is impossible to stop it from
happening at another convention And George Washington, James Madison, Ben
Franklin, and Alexander Hamilton won't be there to protect you.
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the Continental Congress resolved on February 21, 1787
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Q: Did the delegates at the Convention of 1787 introduce a
new mode of ratification for the new Constitution?
A: Yes. The Articles of Confederation required the approval
of all 13 States for amendments to the Articles to be ratified. But the new Constitution
provided it would become effective if only 9 of the 13 States ratified it (Art.
VII, cl. 1, U.S. Constitution).
Q: Who would be delegates at a Convention?
A: Either Congress appoints whomever they want; or State
governments appoint whomever they want.
Q: Who would be chairman at a convention?
A: We don't know. But chairmen have lots of power-and George
Washington won't be chairman.
Q: But if the States appoint the delegates, won't a
convention be safe?
A: Who controls your State? They will be the ones who choose
the delegates if Congress permits the States to appoint delegates. Are the
people who control your State virtuous, wise, honest, and true? [Tell PH if
they are, so she can move there.]
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A: No! In his letter to Samuel Kercheval of July 12, 1816
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Jefferson wrote about the Constitution for the State of
Virginia, which he said needed major revision. And remember James Madison's
words in Federalist No. 45
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(3rd para from the end): "The powers delegated by the
proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those
which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The
former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace,
negotiation, and foreign commerce ... The powers reserved to the several States
will extend to all the objects which ... concern the lives, liberties, and
properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity
of the State."
The powers delegated to the feds are "few and
defined" - what's to amend? All else is reserved to the States or the People
- so State Constitutions would need more frequent amendments. Do you see?
Q: Did Alexander Hamilton say inFederalist No 85
(next to last para)that a convention is safe?
A: No! He said, respecting the ratification of amendments,
that we "may safely rely on the disposition of the State legislatures to
erect barriers against the encroachments of the national authority." But
today, our State legislatures don't protect us from federal encroachments
because:
* We have been so dumbed down by progressive education that
we know nothing & can't think;
* State legislatures have been bought off with federal
funds; and
* Our public and personal morality is in the sewer.
Q: Did Our Framers - the ones who signed The Constitution –
think conventions a fine idea?
A: No!
* Mr. Pinckney said on September 15, 1787
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:
"Conventions are serious things, and ought not to be
repeated."
* Alexander Hamilton wrote of:
"...the utter improbability of assembling a new
convention, under circumstances in any degree so favorable to a happy issue, as
those in which the late convention met, deliberated, and concluded..."
Federalist No. 85
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(9th para)* James Madison said in his letter of Nov. 2, 1788
to Turberville
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"3... an election into it would be courted by the most
violent partizans on both sides; it ... would be the very focus of that flame
which has already too much heated men of all parties; would no doubt contain
individuals of insidious views, who under the mask of seeking alterations
popular in some parts but inadmissible in other parts of the Union might have a
dangerous opportunity of sapping the very foundations of the fabric. ... it
seems scarcely to be presumable that the deliberations of the body could be conducted
in harmony, or terminate in the general good. Having witnessed the difficulties and dangers experienced by the first
Convention, which assembled under every propitious circumstance, I should
tremble for the result of a Second, meeting in the present temper of
America..."
Q: Do we have "violent partizans" or "individuals
of insidious views" who seek a "dangerous opportunity to sap the very
foundations of the fabric" of our country?
A: Yes, and they have been pushing for an Article V
convention since 1963.
Q: What did our Framers say about the purpose of amendments
to the Constitution?
A:
* the novelty and difficulty of what they were doing would
require periodic revision (Mr. Gerry on June 5, 1787
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);
* remedy defects in the Constitution (Hamilton on Sep. 10,
1787
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);
* useful amendments would address the "organization of
the government, not... the mass of its powers" (Federalist No. 85
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13th para); and
* "amendment of errors" & "useful alterations"
suggested by experience (Federalist No. 43
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Q: But those pushing for a convention say the remedy for politicians
who violate the Constitution is to amend the Constitution.
A: Yes, that is their crazy claim: that even though for over
a century, the feds have been usurping hundreds of powers not delegated in the Constitution,
all we have to do is amend the Constitution, and everyone will start obeying
it.[4]
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Q: But they say the feds would obey future amendments
because the feds haven't violated recent amendments, such as women's suffrage.
A: Of the 15 amendments ratified since the 12th in 1804; 10
increased the powers of the feds (13th, 14th, 15th, 16th, 17th, 18th, 19th,
23rd, 24th, 26th); and 4 were "housekeeping" amendments (20th, 22nd,
25th, 27th) - so of
course the feds "obeyed" those.[5]
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Q: What about their claim that the feds violate the
Constitution because they don't understand it?
A: Rubbish! Our Constitution is so simple that Hamilton said
The People were "the natural guardians of the Constitution”
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."
The Oath of office at Art. VI, clause 3, implicitly requires
the feds to learn it. For phrases the feds have perverted - such as the
"interstate commerce," "general welfare" &
"necessary and proper" clauses, a quick look into The Federalist
Papers reveals the original intent. I illustrate that here and elsewhere.
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Q: How do we get rid of the bad amendments such as the 16th
& 17th?
A: Repeal them the same way we repealed the 18th amendment.
Instead of sending to Congress people who don't know the Constitution; send
people who know the Constitution and commit to repealing the bad amendments.
And if they don't act to repeal them, fire them!
Q: Why was the "convention method" put in Article
V?
A: This chart compiles the references in Madison's Journal
of the Federal Convention of 1787 to what became Article V.
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* Law professor John A. Eidsmoe suggests the convention
method of Article V was added rather hastily, at the time when the delegates
were closing their deliberations, and this provision did not receive the
careful attention given to most other provisions of the Constitution.
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* It may also have been a compromise designed to induce Gov.
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Q: Why can't what happens at the convention be controlled by
federal or State laws?
A: We are naïve and tell ourselves that people will
"play by the rules". So we assume all we have to do is make some laws
saying delegates can't exceed the scope of the call, and everyone will obey it.
But if they don't, who is going to enforce these laws you
have so much faith in? The feds? Obama would love the constitution for the New
states of America - it makes him dictator! He won't prosecute delegates who
violate the call. Your State government? They sold you out to the feds long
ago. Errant delegates will be protected by the feds. It doesn't matter what a
law says if it isn't enforced.
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Ever since 1963, globalists have intended to use an Article
V convention as the means for imposing a new Constitution on us. Today, George
Soros – the destroyer of countries - is financing the push for a convention.
Don't let him and his minions destroy America.
Conclusion
This little chart illustrates our Constitution & Declaration
and the enumerated powers delegated to the federal government. For 100 years,
we elected politicians who ignore them. We don't understand that the amendments
proposed by Michael Farris, Mark Levin, Randy Barnett, & Nick Dranias
increase the powers of the federal government because we don't know the list of
enumerated powers in the Constitution. You could remedy that: Print out the chart
and read the Constitution & Declaration!
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As The Blue Tail Gadfly said, even though "the Constitution
is not being enforced, it still declares this federal government LAWLESS! The
true rule of law is still on our side, but not for much longer if the
Constitution is allowed to be foolishly altered."
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© 2014 Publius Huldah - All Rights Reserved
Endnotes:
1. Ford Pursuit of
Globalism
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2. Those pushing for a convention are not telling the truth
about what Madison said in his letter to Turberville
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The only way you can know who is telling the truth is to
study the letter. 3. Madison did not
endorse the "convention method" of proposing amendments. He always said that
when States want amendments, they should instruct their congressional
delegation to pursue it:
* Madison's comments & proposals at the Federal
Convention of 1787 show this
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* In his letter of 1788 to Turberville, he speaks of the two
methods of proposing amendments:
"2. A Convention cannot be called ... without the
previous application of ? of the State legislatures...The difficulties ... must
...be much greater than will attend the origination of amendments in Congress,
which may be done at the ...[instruction] of a single State Legislature...
"
* How was the Bill of Rights handled? On May 5, 1789, Rep.
Bland
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(p. 258-261) introduced into Congress a petition from Virginia
for an Art. V Convention to propose amendments. On June 8, 1789, Madison
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(p. 448-460) circumvented Bland and introduced the amendments
for Congress to propose to the States. On September 24, 1789
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,
Congress sent them to the States for ratification.
4. If your spouse violates the marriage vows, amend the vows
and your marriage will be saved! If motorists violate the speed limit, amend the speed limit and safety will be
restored! When politicians violate the Constitution, amend the Constitution,
and all will obey it!
5. It is important to understand that the proposed
amendments drafted by Randy Barnett, Mark Levin, Nick Dranias, and Michael
Farris all increase the powers of the federal government by legalizing powers
they have already usurped - or they delegate new powers to the federal government.
6. The Constitution was a product of compromise:
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Alexander Hamilton was an abolitionist – but the
Constitution permitted slavery. James Madison wanted to stop the importation of
slaves immediately
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(Federalist No. 42, 6th para); but Art. I, Sec. 9, clause 1
permitted it to continue 20 more years. Hamilton said the Constitution wasn't
perfect, but "is the best that the present views and circumstances of the
country will permit"
(Federalist No. 85 6th
- 8th paras).
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,
The "convention" provision of Art. V seems to have
been added - on the last day of deliberations (Sep. 15, 1787) -
to induce Gerry, Mason, & Randolph to sign the Constitution. But they still
refused to sign.
Publius Huldah is a retired attorney who now lives in
Tennessee. Before getting a law degree, she got a degree in philosophy where
she specialized in political philosophy and epistemology (theories of
knowledge). She now writes extensively on the U.S. Constitution, using the
Federalist Papers to prove its original meaning and intent. She also shows how
federal judges and politicians have ignored Our Constitution and replaced it
with their personal opinions and beliefs.
Source: E-Mail: publiushuldah@gmail.com
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I find this to be a good discussion of the pros and cons for
a ConCon or Art V convention. FYI
only. Good point at the end, and could
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