What Does Marco Rubio
Think about Homeschooling?
January 29–February 5, 2016 | Vol. 126, Feature
We’ve invited all the 2016 presidential candidates to offer
their thoughts on homeschooling and education. Today’s guest is Florida Senator
Marco Rubio. Join us now for this Homeschool Heartbeat
special feature!
“I think parents need to be the final and ultimate arbiter of what their children learn, where they learn, and how.”—Marco Rubio
“I think parents need to be the final and ultimate arbiter of what their children learn, where they learn, and how.”—Marco Rubio
Mike Farris: Hi, I’m Mike Farris from Home School Legal
Defense Association. And we’ve extended an open invitation to all the current
presidential candidates to talk with us about their views on their candidacy in
general and especially the federal government’s role in education.
Our first guest today
is Florida Senator and presidential candidate Marco Rubio. Senator, welcome to
the program!
Sen. Marco Rubio: Thank you for having me on.
Mike: Senator, why are you running for president?
Sen. Rubio: I think America is the greatest country in
the world, but it’s headed in the wrong direction—fast—after seven years of
Barack Obama. He’s undermining the Constitution, he’s trying to redefine the
role of government in our lives, including our schools, he’s diminished
America’s standing in the world. And if we have another four years like this,
we’re going to leave our children worse off than ourselves. No Americans have
ever done that before. So I’m running for
president because I know I can defeat Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders or
people that agree with the President. And I can help turn this country around,
so that we can re-embrace all the things that made it great.
Mike: Senator, I’ve heard you give strong,
bold public proclamations of your faith in Christ in various formats over the
course of your candidacy. Can you tell us what role your faith will play in
your service as president?
Sen. Rubio: My faith is the single greatest influence in
my life. And so it will influence my decisions as president, not because I seek
to impose my beliefs—as a Christian, I can’t impose my beliefs. Christianity is
the free gift of salvation that has to be accepted willingly. But it does teach
me that I have to care for the less fortunate. It teaches me that the way to
serve Christ is to serve my neighbor and to love one another. It also teaches
me that the most important job and the most influential role I will ever play
is to be a husband to my wife and a father to my children. And so as president I
will continue to obviously fulfill my obligations to the nation, but it will
influence me in terms of how I view issues, because I view them through the
lens of my faith that says that I am to glorify God in everything I do.
Mike: Senator, thank you so much for that. It’s
really encouraging to hear a person boldly profess their faith in Christ. Turning to the issue
of education, what role do you think the federal government should have in
education—particularly how that affects the private school and homeschool
world. I know your children attend a private Christian school. Tell us about
your views of education and especially homeschooling.
Sen. Rubio: Well, there’s two separate kinds, there’s
two divisions in education. Higher education—post-secondary education—the
federal government is the biggest payer of that through pell grants and student
loans. And I want to see those programs improved. Pre-K through 12—that
is primarily almost entirely a local government function, of school boards. And
in a sense, my history, going back to my time in the Florida legislature and as
speaker of the Florida House [of Representatives], is I want to empower
parents. I think parents need to be the final and ultimate arbiter of what
their children learn, where they learn, and how.
Mike: What’s your experience been with
homeschooling families, what’s your interaction, what’s your view of
homeschooling?
Marco Rubio: Well, we have a lot of friends that
homeschool. In fact, during the campaign, there will be elements of
homeschooling that we’ll use. My kids’ school in South Florida has a sort of
homeschooling component of their curriculum, which we’ll be able to use when
we’re on the road with our kids during the campaign. But in general, I
think it’s not only a valid way to teach your children, you see from the
empirical evidence that homeschool children are outperforming many children
attending traditional schools. I believe in parental choice—homeschooling,
faith-based schools, private school of your choosing, what public school you
want to go to instead of the one you’re zoned for. But I view homeschooling, and
especially the explosion of homeschooling in America over the last 15 years, as
a great development that we’ve seen. And we see how well homeschoolers are
performing once they’re getting into college and universities across the
country.
Mike: One of the issues that’s of big concern to a
lot of parents, including the homeschooling community is the whole Common Core.
What’s your view on the Common Core, and what would you do about it if elected
president?
Marco Rubio: Well, I don’t think there’s anything bad
about curriculum. You certainly want to improve curriculum at schools, and I
think it belongs to states to decide what curriculum, how they want to improve
their public school curriculum. In terms of private
schools and homeschoolers, parents should be able to decide what curriculum
they’re teaching. And I would say one of the great things that’s developed is a
great variety of online resources and parent groups and others that provide
some great curriculum choices—blended choices between multiple different
curriculums. What I don’t want to
see is the federal government decides, “Here’s the set of standards. And you’re
either going to follow this set of standards that we’ve decided at the federal
level, or you’re going to lose your federal funding.” I don’t want to see that
happen at all, and in fact as president I will oppose that. In fact, I don’t
even think we need a department of education. Student loans and pell
grants—these programs, they could be transferred to the treasury. We don’t need
a national school board.
Mike: I know that you’ll get a lot of “amens” on
that subject. And it’s important that you point out the general principle of
the Common Core is centralized curriculum at the federal level. It’s had
several names over the last decade or more, and I appreciate your broad answer
on that question. Senator, I know from
your service in the Senate, particularly on the Foreign Relations Committee,
that you’ve been a strong voice for American sovereignty and our families by
your opposition to the UN Convention on the Rights of Persons with
Disabilities. These treaties have great-sounding names—what would you do about
these treaties like the Convention on the Right of the Child and others that
seek to impose UN control over American domestic policy?
Sen. Rubio: That’s exactly right. I mean, they have
great-sounding names, and so they are used as a weapon against those who oppose
them. They argue that, “Oh, you’re not voting for that. You must not care about
the disabled.” And, “You’re not voting for that. You must not care about
children.” Or, “You must not care about women.” It’s absurd. Just because they
are called something that sounds good doesn’t mean it’s good. Ultimately, every
treaty in this country is a surrender of sovereignty. Now, in some cases, like
arms control and others, it may make sense for America. But in these specific
instances, these are allowing the United States to now be bound internationally
by standards set by other countries with whom we don’t share values or culture.
Many of these countries don’t have a First Amendment or anything like it. Many
of these countries don’t have the Judeo-Christian foundation that influenced
the framing of our Constitution and ultimately of our laws. And I would say that
when it comes to the treatment of children, the treatment of the disabled,
there’s no country in the world that does it better than we do now. That
doesn’t mean we can’t seek to improve. But I think there’s no country that does
it better than we do now. And to somehow subject America to international
guidelines that now bind us in international law is not something that I’m
supportive of. And I think the most important thing that we can do to help
children in America is to empower family and parents, not empower the United Nations
or some intergovernmental, international body.
Mike: Our final question is: You’ve publicly
announced your support for the Convention of the States project—tell us about
that, and why you’re supporting it.
Sen. Rubio: Because I believe it’s the only way we’re
ever going to get term limits on Congress, term limits on judges, and a
balanced budget amendment. The framers of our Constitution were genius. They
put in Article V of the Constitution a process by which citizens can take
control of the federal government. I think the time has come to do that in
these instances. This convention of states would not open up the First
Amendment or the Second Amendment or in any way undermine existing
constitutional rights. But it would create new requirements on the federal
government. And that is to put limits on Congress, term limits on the Supreme
Court, and a balanced budget amendment on our spending.
Mike: Well Senator Rubio, we wish you well in the
upcoming race. We pray that God would give you guidance, and thank you so much
for taking the time with us today.
Sen. Rubio: Well, I appreciate you having me on. Thank
you, and God bless all you listeners. And if you’re in Iowa, I encourage you to
go out Monday evening to your caucus site and vote for me
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