Mr. Trump Calls the Show October 25, 2016
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RUSH: We have with us Mr. Trump. Mr. Trump's on the
phone from... Where are you, sir? Where are you calling from right now?
TRUMP: Well, I'm right now in Miami, Rush, and I
just visited two voting areas, and they are packed. They're two-blocks
long with people voting.
RUSH: And obviously... They're obviously out voting
for you?
TRUMP: Well, it looks like it. They have a lot
of hats on, red hats, and they have a lot of buttons on 'em saying
"Trump." So hopefully they're voting for me, I think.
(chuckles) But there are a lot of people. They said they've never seen lines
like this, Rush.
RUSH: Mr. Trump, I want to make an observation and
get your reaction to it. We have some, I think, devastating news for the
American people today, and that's what's happening with health care premiums.
TRUMP: Absolutely.
RUSH: This 25% increase is just an average. It's
much higher that than that. Mr. Trump, the people who have destroyed the
health care system are also in line to destroy other aspects of our economy --
TRUMP: Right.
RUSH: -- the job market, immigration and amnesty --
TRUMP: Right.
RUSH: -- and they're out there claiming... Their
fingerprints are all over this. Yours are not. Mr. Trump, you don't have
one thing to do with anything that's gone right or wrong with in this country.
They do.
TRUMP: Right.
RUSH: They're throwing out everything they can to
destroy you and to prevent you from winning, and you keep hanging in
there. What is your plan these next two weeks to take this to the finish
line?
TRUMP: Well, one thing we're going to do is talk
just about that: Obamacare, jobs. Our jobs are being taken away from us, Rush.
Companies, as we speak, are signing documents with Mexico and other places to
move. Our jobs be being... Look at Ford two weeks ago. Ford Motor. They're
gonna make all of their smaller cars in Mexico. They're gonna move everything
outta here. And so many... I mean, Carrier air-conditioners. I talk about
all these companies. There are hundreds of companies. They're moving out to
Mexico and other countries. Obamacare
is a disaster.
And you remember, I called that from before it was approved. I said, "This
can't work, because it's just... The plan is no good. The concept is no
good," and it turned out to be much worse.
RUSH: Well, the problem is, it is working. It is
working, by design. The whole point of this was to have it fail like this
so that they can then have people panic and ask the government to fix it, and
the government will fix it by going single payer with the government totally running
the health care system, which gives them so much power over people and their
behavior and the way they live their lives, you don't even want to think about
it.
TRUMP: Well, if they do that, Rush, they'll have an even
worse situation than they have now. You know, if you look at even Canada,
the people come down. When they want an operation, they come to the United
States to get the operation. You look at what's going on. It is a
disaster in terms of cost, of course... And, you know, the 25%, Rush, is less than
half of what the real number is. The real number in some of these places
is 80% to 90% increases. It's catastrophic, actually.
RUSH: It is.
TRUMP: They put out the phony number of 25% because
25% sounds better than 60 or 70%.
RUSH: Well, you know, the former head of the
Democrat National Committee, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, is out there saying,
"Oh, no. It's been much worse. Bush was destroying the health care
system. Obamacare, all it's like doing is keeping prices from going up
more rapidly." I mean, it's frustrating, Mr. Trump, because their
fingerprints, as I say, are all over this. If anybody, in my estimation, is
disqualified from having anything further to do with this nation's economy or
health care or immigration, it's the Democrat Party. And you have
absolutely... There's not one thing going wrong in this country they can blame
you for, and yet they're trying to tell everybody that you're the one not
qualified, that you're the one not fit. What has this been like for you
personally? I mean, you're a winner.
TRUMP: Right.
RUSH: You're somebody that's won everything that
you've done. What are these assaults...? I don't think people understand
the impact on a family or even an individual, when the kitchen sink is thrown
at them as has been thrown at you.
TRUMP: Well, they've been vicious. The New
York Times, they lie. They lie like I've never seen anything. They know
they're lying. One of these guys wrote a story -- Rutenberg, Jim
Rutenberg, a story. Literally they'll do whatever they have to do. He
practically they insinuated... they'll lie and tell whatever they have to
say. These are vicious people. These are lying people, and, you
know, fortunately I can defend myself. I have... What do people do that
can't defend themselves? But I'll tell you the good news.
People know it, people see it, and they say it's the
greatest pile-on in the history of politics and probably long beyond politics,
and here's the bottom line. I think we're doing really well. You
know, they even put phony polls out there, Rush. You take a look at some
of these polls; they're totally phony. Now, the poll that called it
correct for the last three presidential elections has us up by 2%.
And you take a look at the lines in Florida, they're
unbelievable what's going on, and early polling at different places has us
leading in a lot of different places that nobody was even thinking about. So
we'll see what happens, but these are bad people, Rush, and... I mean, you've
dealt with them for a long time, but they're bad. They're bad and very evil
people.
RUSH: You have an interesting philosophy in the way
of dealing with this, and people in public life have evolved different theories
and ways.
TRUMP: Well --
RUSH: You are accused of whatever it is with
whatever subject. You choose to defend yourself right on the spot.
TRUMP: Hello?
RUSH: You choose to go after -- people say,
"No, no, Mr. Trump, stick to the issues. Don't let them sidetrack
you that way."
TRUMP: Hello?
RUSH: What is your thinking on --
TRUMP: Well, I think we got cut off.
RUSH: Go ahead. Oh, he thinks we lost him.
The cell phone connection must have dumped. Well, maybe he will call
back. He had a window until about 2:15 or 2:17. I guess he's in Miami, is
gonna be flying somewhere. I heard him say earlier today that they have
to win -- (interruption) We got him back. Mr. Trump, we lost the
connection, but here you are back with us. There we go. They tell
me you're back, Mr. Trump.
TRUMP: We got cut off somehow, Rush. They are
evil people, the press, the media, they are bad people, and nobody, nobody lies
like they do.
RUSH: Well, and what I was saying before we got cut
off is that a lot of public figures have different ways of dealing with
it. Some ignore it hoping not to amplify it. You obviously, in your
life when somebody's come after you, wounded you, you go right back at them,
and then people say, "Mr. Trump, stick to the issues, don't be distracted
like this."
TRUMP: Right.
RUSH: What is your thinking in dealing with --
TRUMP: Well, I never like it when they tell me
that, and I'm sure they're right, but when people say things that are
fabrication -- you know, there were fabricated stories made up, these were
fabrications. You know what I'm talking about. Out of
nowhere. And this was just like, if you remember, where they said, you
know, with the rallies where they hired thugs to go into my rallies, well, I
think they hired other people to do other things.
I would rather, Rush, fight it, even though most people
say you shouldn't do that. But if you fight it, at least you're telling
the truth. At least the word is out that, you know, you're innocent of
these charges or stating you're innocent. But other people say stay on
jobs, stay on Obamacare and repealing and replacing it, et cetera. So I
guess it's two theories. I would rather fight it, but everyone says you
shouldn't do that, just go along.
RUSH: Well, you have to be who you are, and I think
one of the things that has so many people so excited for you is that you do
fight, is that you do fight back.
TRUMP: Well, I'd like to at least, you know, make a
statement about the truth. And even if that delays it a day or two, in
other words, then they have to print the statement and they don't talk about
jobs and Obamacare, right. You know, but honestly, I mean, people have to know
your view. They have to know that this stuff never took place, it was total
fabrication. So I would rather do it that way, but a lot of people disagree
with me, Rush. You may be one of the few that don't.
RUSH: Well, I believe in people being who they are,
and you are obviously who you are, and I think people should stay who they
are. You're not a phony in any way, shape, manner or form. You've
got, Mr. Trump, so many people --
TRUMP: Hello?
RUSH: Your support, I mean, you see it at all of
your rallies.
TRUMP: Steve!
RUSH: It's voluminous and it's deep.
TRUMP: The phone is dead.
RUSH: I don't know if you have an idea how many
people love you and are depending on you and hoping you win here.
TRUMP: Steve, get me a phone, quick!
RUSH: He's got a phone. I guess we're
dropping out. We can hear him, but he can't hear us. (interruption)
Oh, is that what he said, get me a phone quick? Well, let's see if we can
reestablish connections here. I'm a highly trained broadcast specialist
and can vamp here while we wait for the connection to be reestablished or is it
too late now because he has to leave? Oh, you're hearing them, they just
can't hear us? Well, it's probably our phone system's fault. We got
the worst phone system in all of radio here. I'm just kidding about that,
but I do hope that we're able to get him back before he has to depart.
He's breathing rarefied air. I look at this
campaign of Mr. Trump's in different ways than a lot of people do. It's
politics of course and you look at it, political theory, strategy, but there's
so many different levels to the Donald Trump campaign. I think this
event, this thing he's tapped into is bigger than he is, and it's got millions
of Americans and we're going to find out how many there really are. They're
totally invested in his candidacy, they're totally invested in him. Mr. Trump,
I'm told you that we are once again reconnected. Are you there, sir?
TRUMP: Yes, and I'm not sure whose fault, but I'll
tell you what, I changed phones anyway just to make sure, okay?
RUSH: Well, no, no fault. I know you've got
to split soon and leave for -- where are you going next from Miami?
TRUMP: We're going to different places all
throughout Florida. Our next stop is Sanford, Florida. We have a
tremendous crowd. Last night we had 25,000 people in Tampa. I don't
know if you saw last night, Rush, it was unbelievable.
RUSH: I did. Tim Kaine had 30 people in West
Palm Beach.
TRUMP: I know. We had 25,000 people last
night, we set the record for the arena, and it was beautiful, and the level of
excitement was even more beautiful and --
RUSH: What do you say to people that say that
doesn't matter, that doesn't tell us how people are gonna vote.
TRUMP: I don't believe it. They said Romney
had crowds, but the truth is he had one crowd, one big crowd the last
day. We've had crowds for five months. I mean, from the
beginning. And now they're bigger than ever before. No, I think it
makes a big difference. I've heard that theory, and you know what?
Maybe it's right. I don't know. I'll let you know around the
9th. I'll let you know right after the election. But nobody's ever
had crowds like we're having. It's a movement. It's a movement for
common sense --
RUSH: It is.
TRUMP: -- and, you know, other things.
RUSH: It really is. I was gonna tell you
before we got disconnected the last time, you see your crowds, you know how
many people are showing up, I think there are millions more people than you
even know behind you, praying for you, urging you on, hoping and praying you
win. It's phenomenal the kind of support you have behind you, despite the
best efforts to suppress it, and those efforts are being made, I think it's
profound, the number of people.
TRUMP: Well, they're doing a tremendous suppression
effort, but so far I will tell you, when you look at where the voting booths
are, you know, the voters, we pass, I told you before, we passed three of
them. They're two and three blocks long of people standing there waiting
to vote, and four years ago they'd have two people in the room and everybody's
falling asleep. The voting -- the lines are unbelievable getting into the
polling places and the voting booths. So, you know, hopefully that's a
great sign, and these I think are real Trump people. These are people
that want to see America be great again. That's what it's all about.
RUSH: You called here about health care and this
disastrous premium increase. As far as you've thought about it, what
needs to change? When you say you're gonna repeal and replace it, what
are you gonna do instead of Obamacare? How are you gonna get prices down?
That's what matters. How are you gonna bring prices down?
TRUMP: It's such a great question and there are
frankly so many answers. You know, you look at the savings health
insurance, there's so many great ways you can do that. You'll get great
plans at much less money, at much less money. I mean, these people are
being just killed. And you know the 25% was put out by Washington 'cause
the real number could be three times that amount. I mean, it's
catastrophic what's going on.
I left small businesses a little while ago and they were
all complaining that Obamacare is putting them out of business. Not only
the regulations, which are a disaster and the taxes, but Obamacare is
putting them out of business. So you have that concept, the savings
accounts, health care. What you really have are ways of getting people
energized by take -- you have to take down the lines between the state, Rush,
so you have competition. Right now there's no competition --
RUSH: None.
TRUMP: -- and the insurance companies love that
because they'd rather have one state than have to compete in 50 states.
But you have to break down the barriers, break down the lines so there's
competition. And once that happens, they will see their costs drop, and
they will see plans that nobody's even thought of before, it'll be so beautiful.
RUSH: Yeah, because right now the insurance
companies are forbidden by law in competing state to state. They have to
stay within state --
TRUMP: Right.
RUSH: -- so people in certain states are subject to
very little competition, which means they have no hope of having --
TRUMP: The concept, Rush, of health care savings
accounts and, you know, other concepts off of that, but, you know, I'm totally
serious. You will have plans that nobody's even talking about now because
it'll get more and more competitive, more and more ideas will come out, and the
costs will drop so incredibly, it will be an incredible thing to watch.
We are absolutely being choked. Businesses are closing. I think
Obamacare has now taken over almost from regulation, which is ridiculous what's
happening with overregulation, as the biggest single problem for opening and
keeping businesses going.
RUSH: It's destroying lives. It's taking
people's disposable income away. It's a disaster what is happening under
the whole concept of government knows best here, which clearly is not being
demonstrated here. Before you go, I have to say, ask you something.
I think I heard you say today earlier that you are of the opinion you have to
win Florida if you're gonna win the whole thing. Did I hear you right
earlier?
TRUMP: Well, I think so, and again I'm going by
people that I watch and that I listen to and that I read. They're saying
that and I think so far we're doing very well. The latest poll came out
even, but at the voting booth we're killing it. You know, I think --
look, I think there are a lot of people out there that aren't being
polled. That's what we're seeing in a number of states, including North
Carolina, including different places.
You know in Iowa we're doing fantastically well.
But we're saying that there are a lot of people that haven't been polled in
Florida, and the lines are incredible. They never expected anything like
this. They're getting more people to work inside because they didn't
expect anything like this. Now, we'll speak later on in two weeks and
we'll say, well, we were right or we were wrong, but I think there's a
tremendous energy out there, Rush, and despite the horrendous, really lying
press, I mean, the media's so bad, I'm gonna hit 'em as hard as I can 'cause
people have to understand, but despite this --
RUSH: Oh, they do! Mr. Trump, they do!
They understand exactly what the media is doing to you. Your fan base,
your support base is loyal beyond I think --
TRUMP: Amazing. I love 'em. I love 'em.
RUSH: Well, thanks for your time today. I
appreciate it, and good luck the rest of the way, sir.
TRUMP: Well, thank you. We're gonna be
working very hard, and we'll speak to you on the 9th. Hopefully we've
have a happy conversation.
RUSH: Oh, I look forward to it -- look forward to
it.
TRUMP: Thank you, Rush. I appreciate it.
RUSH: Thank you, sir. Donald Trump on the
phone with us from Florida.
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